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		By: Justin Moore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve really been eyeballing the StoreVault S500. I want to like the S300, but it&#039;s quirky form-factor and eight-drive limit kinda push me away. I wish they would announce the ability to do some EqualLogic-esque stuff, such as being able to intermix multiple StoreVaults to create a one large, centrally managed storage pool. Doesn&#039;t cost anything to dream though...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve really been eyeballing the StoreVault S500. I want to like the S300, but it&#8217;s quirky form-factor and eight-drive limit kinda push me away. I wish they would announce the ability to do some EqualLogic-esque stuff, such as being able to intermix multiple StoreVaults to create a one large, centrally managed storage pool. Doesn&#8217;t cost anything to dream though&#8230;</p>
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		By: David Szpunar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Szpunar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Barry, great comment! Right now, we are backing up some data offsite, and some not. Our Exchange server and our Shelby database is backed up offsite via &lt;a href=&quot;http://infotech.lakeviewchurch.org/?s=MozyPro&quot;&gt;MozyPro&lt;/a&gt; daily, and Shelby is also backed up to two rotating external hard drives once each week on different days to prevent both backups being onsite at the same time.

However, our 500GB or so of user data is being mirrored to a second server, but not backed up off site currently. This is due to both cost (especially in the past), complexity, and a lot of other priorities taking, well, priority. However, with hard drive prices falling like rocks while the capacities increase, I believe we will very soon implement some new backups using something along these lines, although using &lt;a href=&quot;https://mozy.com/?ref=V3YW67&quot;&gt;Mozy&lt;/a&gt; or even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acstechnologies.com/livestor/article9480.htm&quot;&gt;LiveStor at ACS&lt;/a&gt; is attractive but at the same time, expensive. It does get the data way, way offsite compared to taking a disk home, but fast restores become more difficult because it has to be transported over the network or out-of-state on some physical media. Also, initial backup times for Mozy at least are high, especially for anything more than several hundred megabytes!

So the crown jewels are safe, and everything else is somewhat safe but needs to get safer. I just need to find the best and most cost-effective way of doing that.

Nice cartoon by the way, maybe I&#039;ll pass that along with whatever my backup proposal ends up being :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barry, great comment! Right now, we are backing up some data offsite, and some not. Our Exchange server and our Shelby database is backed up offsite via <a href="http://infotech.lakeviewchurch.org/?s=MozyPro">MozyPro</a> daily, and Shelby is also backed up to two rotating external hard drives once each week on different days to prevent both backups being onsite at the same time.</p>
<p>However, our 500GB or so of user data is being mirrored to a second server, but not backed up off site currently. This is due to both cost (especially in the past), complexity, and a lot of other priorities taking, well, priority. However, with hard drive prices falling like rocks while the capacities increase, I believe we will very soon implement some new backups using something along these lines, although using <a href="https://mozy.com/?ref=V3YW67">Mozy</a> or even <a href="http://www.acstechnologies.com/livestor/article9480.htm">LiveStor at ACS</a> is attractive but at the same time, expensive. It does get the data way, way offsite compared to taking a disk home, but fast restores become more difficult because it has to be transported over the network or out-of-state on some physical media. Also, initial backup times for Mozy at least are high, especially for anything more than several hundred megabytes!</p>
<p>So the crown jewels are safe, and everything else is somewhat safe but needs to get safer. I just need to find the best and most cost-effective way of doing that.</p>
<p>Nice cartoon by the way, maybe I&#8217;ll pass that along with whatever my backup proposal ends up being :-)</p>
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		By: Barry Buchanan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David, great post. However I must say Ihope you have some sort of off-site solution as well, either a tape backup or an off-site server. Truthfully if you don&#039;t have that all the other drives give you is redundancy. Otherwise a fire or water damage could detroy everything and be lost forever. Or what if you can&#039;t get to the data physically? I see so many people spend so much time implementing drive solutions and forget about &quot;real&quot; disators. I&#039;m sure you must be backing up to tape and then offsite, your too smart to do any less, just think it is a point worth making. Yes, the title was corny, so in kind check my corny cartoon I did a while back. http://churchithelp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/itrules6.JPG Roll your eyes now everyone. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, great post. However I must say Ihope you have some sort of off-site solution as well, either a tape backup or an off-site server. Truthfully if you don&#8217;t have that all the other drives give you is redundancy. Otherwise a fire or water damage could detroy everything and be lost forever. Or what if you can&#8217;t get to the data physically? I see so many people spend so much time implementing drive solutions and forget about &#8220;real&#8221; disators. I&#8217;m sure you must be backing up to tape and then offsite, your too smart to do any less, just think it is a point worth making. Yes, the title was corny, so in kind check my corny cartoon I did a while back. <a href="http://churchithelp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/itrules6.JPG" rel="nofollow ugc">http://churchithelp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/itrules6.JPG</a> Roll your eyes now everyone. :)</p>
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