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		<title>Church IT Roundtable Recap Spring 2010, Saddleback Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I attended the national Church IT Roundtable event last week, this time held at Saddleback Church around Los Angeles. I was asked by the editor of IndyGeek.net if I would write up the event and, since my blog is in transition (and somewhat unattended :-) and he asked nicely, I&#8217;ve posted the article over there. [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the national <a href="http://www.citrt.org/">Church IT Roundtable</a> event last week, this time held at <a href="http://www.saddleback.com/">Saddleback Church</a> around Los Angeles. I was asked by the editor of <a href="http://www.indygeek.net/">IndyGeek.net</a> if I would write up the event and, since my blog is in transition (and somewhat unattended :-) and he asked nicely, I&#8217;ve posted the article over there. Here&#8217;s an excerpt followed with a link to the full thing:</p>
<blockquote><p>Last week, listening to my iPhone while traveling home, I heard the first verse of the song Calling All Friends by The Low Stars:</p>
<blockquote><p>Calling all friends, and people I met on the way down.<br />
Calling all friends, and people I don’t even know.<br />
Calling on high, I wanna believe there’s a way now.<br />
I’m too tired to pretend I don’t wanna be alone, I’m calling all friends.</p></blockquote>
<p>For those working with Information Technology in churches, it’s easy to feel isolated and alone, trying to figure out what the best technology solutions are (and how to afford them!), how to best support your staff, recruit and manage volunteers, and figure out how to communicate your needs and solutions to leadership and users in ways they understand, go along with, and fund. Most churches have either a volunteer IT staff, a paid staff member who does IT as part of their job, or perhaps one full-time IT position. If you’re really large and fortunate, you may have a small team of two or more to support your environment, creating some camaraderie, but it’s still easy to feel alone, isolated and seldom understood.</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="IndyGeek: Roundtable draws Christian IT pros" href="http://www.indygeek.net/2010/03/16/spring-church-it-roundtable/">Read the rest at IndyGeek.net</a>. (NOTE on Dec. 12, 2011: IndyGeek.net is no longer operational. I am republishing the rest of the original article below, picking up from where I just left off above.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Fortunately, Jason Powell, the IT Director at Granger Community Church (<span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Large church in Granger, Indiana with Jason Powell as the IT Director','caption', 'Granger Community Church' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">GCC</acronym></span>) in Granger, Indiana felt that way himself several years ago, and decided to do something about it: he started blogging. The online community created by Jason’s blog led him to invite other church IT folks to <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Large church in Granger, Indiana with Jason Powell as the IT Director','caption', 'Granger Community Church' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">GCC</acronym></span> and have a “roundtable” discussion to see if they could benefit from sharing with each other. This was the first official Church IT Roundtable (CITRT), a term that now encompasses an unofficial group of people, discussions and community that connect from around the US and even the world so no one has to “go it alone.”</p>
<p>Roundtables are generally held a couple of times a year. The most recent Roundtable was held at Saddleback Church in Foothill Ranch, CA on March 10<sup>th</sup> through 12<sup>th</sup>. Approximately 75 people from churches around the country (and a small number of vendors) attended.</p>
<p>On Wednesday night, officially the optional “pre-roundtable” dinner, old friends and new ones gathered for some excellent dinner provided by the on-campus foodservices at Saddleback and some even more excellent socialization. Sharing technology and technique are excuses to have a Roundtable, and don’t get me wrong, the both were shared in abundance and the knowledge and experience is invaluable. But the real, just as tangible but less quantifiable, reason to get together is to share life with each other and forge long-lasting friendships with peers who just happen to often have resources they’re willing to share with you at and after the Roundtable. For all the technology, there’s at least a triple dose of inspiration and connection.</p>
<p>Why get together in person? That’s a good question, one that geeks of all stripes would probably ask in a similar situation. After all, technology and the Internet are pretty powerful now. Why not leverage blogs, social media, online chat and streaming video to accomplish everything remotely? Because that already happens, and it’s not enough! Relationships developed online can be good, and even somewhat deep, but it’s not often they are as rich, full and close as ones developed when eating, laughing, sharing and telling stories together around a table or tables. The “roundtable” events often happen around square tables, and the CITRT geeks enjoy pointing out the irony of this fact—however the national Roundtable at Saddleback actually took place around round tables! Additionally, it’s much easier to focus on sharing and developing friendships in an environment removed from daily workflow and life.</p>
<p>That doesn’t mean that the CITRT group foregoes the use of technology! In between Roundtable events, the group does leverage Twitter, Facebook, wikis, blogs, and IRC (Internet Relay Chat, a very old and once more widely used Internet chat protocol where the chat rooms are called “channels”) to communicate regularly, and for those who have met in person it’s that much easier to continue those friendships in between get-togethers when everyone is spread around the country. There’s a social aspect, but every day there are usually multiple technology problems and questions answered by others in the group in the IRC channel, saving those who ask countless hours of their own research, trial, error, and often even the cost of hiring a contractor or outside expert to provide advice and/or solutions.</p>
<p>And that is the focus of the daily Roundtable sessions in California on Thursday. In addition to a daily keynote speaker, there were two Roundtable discussion times on Thursday and one on Friday. Wednesday’s discussion started revolving around how the spiritual life of Church IT staff was affected by working in a church. Generally, a moderator stands up at the front of the room and takes topics from the group, writing them on a whiteboard. That’s how the rest of the sessions worked, but because most geeks would rather talk about technology, the spiritual discussion was a pre-picked starting topic foisted on the three rooms of Roundtable groups at the opening session (with 75 attendees, the sessions are much more manageable and more can participate if they are divided up into groups of around 25 each). After the spiritual discussion, the groups moved on to pick a set of topics ranging from email systems to storage solutions, networking to working with volunteers, and many more. The afternoon session on Thursday was divided up into four groups by type, with infrastructure in one room, management in another, helpdesk and user support in another room, and web design and support in the final, while the Thursday morning Roundtable was an open discussion of any remaining topics.</p>
<p>Attendees are admonished at the beginning: if the topic you have questions about isn’t covered, it’s your fault! Speak up, join the conversation, and participate so everyone can get what they need most from the group. Yes, geeks often are shy and reserved, but it’s much easier to open up with friends. Many in the group are already friends, some have met at prior Roundtable events and some were only friends online until this week, but even for those there for the first time, the pre-existing online friendships created a fast connection.</p>
<p>On Thursday afternoon, an unscheduled visitor stopped by, Pastor Rick Warren, founding pastor at Saddleback Church and author of the bestselling Purpose Driven Life book. For him to take an hour and a half out of his busy schedule to greet everyone individually, give a very insightful talk and stick around for individual pictures was not only unexpected and very welcome, but demonstrated a down-to-earth man with a heart for service and Christian ministry.</p>
<p>Friday morning was opened with a keynote from Scott Smith, CEO of Solerant, a company that was founded to provide IT services and support to churches, although they have corporate clients as well. Solerant has been a long-time supporter of the Roundtable online and in person, and Scott delivered a much-needed message from a CEO’s perspective about how communicating as a technology person to leadership needs to be carefully constructed to provide information that the leaders care about in a context of the things they care about, rather than spewing techno-speak that may very well be correct, but won’t translate into a concrete reason to provide support and resources. Scott focused on how to position projects and requests through high-level descriptions and especially by using stories and analogies that are easy to relate to outside of the geek mindset. Geeks in all fields could benefit from using his tips.</p>
<p>The daytime food and events were just the icing on the cake, as most attendees continued their discussions after dinner, often late into the wee hours of the morning in their hotel rooms, the hotel lobby, and for some, the pool and hot tub! This could range from group discussions to one-on-one or two-on-one teaching or assistance. The knowledge transfer happening at all levels is something most organizations probably wish they could leverage on demand.</p>
<p>It’s an event that’s hard to describe, as much as I’ve attempted here, and a lot of people who might benefit from the event, even if they already participate online, have wondered if it’s worth the time and expense (travel is most of the cost as the registration, including food, has always been under $100 thanks to sponsors who not only bring technology and services to display, but also in most cases participate in the discussions and truly help just like everyone else—the group encourages vendor engineers and technologists to attend and become part of the community, not just sales people!). However, without fail, first-time attendees enthusiastically said at the end that it was indescribably valuable, that they’d forged new and deep friendships, gathered excellent ideas to take home and implement, and that they couldn’t imagine not making this a part of their regular schedule whenever possible. This is my personal feeling after attending all but three Roundtable events since they started, but it was by far a widely shared opinion.</p>
<p>The CITRT main website is currently a wiki located at <a href="http://www.citrt.org/">http://www.citrt.org/</a>. The site provides links to participant blogs, Twitter lists, ways to connect to the #citrt IRC channel on the Freenode IRC network, and information and registration information for future in-person Roundtable events around the country as it becomes available (they move often or will break down into multiple regional Roundtables around the country in some cases), along with other information, and allows anyone to easily get involved. And because it’s a wiki, anyone connected to Church IT can request an account and add/update information on their own—just one more way to connect and collaborate! Every church, contrary to what it sometimes feels like, has many similar technology needs and those supporting them are not alone. And sometimes, that makes a big difference.</p></blockquote>
<p>Also, for more technical notes, <a title="Tony Dye's Blog" href="http://tonydye.typepad.com/">Tony Dye</a> posted his excellent rough notes of <a title="Tony Dye: CITRT Notes, Day 1" href="http://tonydye.typepad.com/main/2010/03/citrt-notes-and-afterthoughts.html">Day 1</a> and <a title="Tony Dye: CITRT Notes, Day 2" href="http://tonydye.typepad.com/main/2010/03/citrt-notes-day-2.html">Day 2</a>, my article is a high-level overview but Tony provides a blow-by-technical-blow of the sessions he was in (and the main ones), even though it&#8217;s unedited there&#8217;s a ton of useful information there. Worth checking out, thanks for sharing Tony!</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been way to busy having awesome conversations and learning new things here at the Seacoast Fall Church IT Roundtable to actually have time to post much. Instead, the conversations in this Roundtable are hitting Twitter with the tag #citrt! Check it out!]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been way to busy having awesome conversations and learning new things here at the Seacoast Fall Church IT Roundtable to actually have time to post much. Instead, the conversations in this Roundtable are hitting Twitter with the tag <a title="Twitter Search for #citrt" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23citrt+or+citrt">#citrt</a>! Check it out!</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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					<description><![CDATA[My wife and I drove up to South Bend, IN today so I can attend the Granger Community Church IT Roundtable tomorrow! We&#8217;re staying with Justin Moore and his wife Bonnie, along with Dave Mast and his wife Jess! It&#8217;s a house full of laptops&#8230;and people of course! It&#8217;s going to be a great day [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I drove up to South Bend, IN today so I can attend the <a title="Granger Community Church" href="http://www.gccwired.com/">Granger Community Church</a> <a title="Jason Powell, Granger's IT Director" href="http://www.jasonpowell.net/">IT Roundtable</a> tomorrow! We&#8217;re staying with <a title="Justin Moore" href="http://www.wantmoore.com/">Justin Moore</a> and his wife <a title="Bonnie Moore" href="http://bonnie.wantmoore.com/">Bonnie</a>, along with <a title="Dave Mast" href="http://davemast.net/">Dave Mast</a> and his wife <a title="Jessica Mast" href="http://jessicamast.com/">Jess</a>! It&#8217;s a house full of laptops&#8230;and people of course! It&#8217;s going to be a great day tomorrow, I think, but the Granger IT guys will still have their hands busy with the Innovate Conference setup and some cleanup from some fileserver issues yesterday and today. This Roundtable will be smaller than usual but that just means more in-depth discussion and closer relationships!</p>
<p>The trip is off to a good start, with milk shakes at Steak-N-Shake as a late night treat. Ritters was our first choice and Culvers our second (were trying for custard! We have some custard virgins among us!) but it was still good!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for bed, going to be a long day tomorrow! I&#8217;ve also got some server and storage infrastructure upgrades in the works that I need to find time to write about, some exciting stuff! See some of you tomorrow, and the rest of you in <a title="#citrt IRC channel via web browser!" href="http://tinyurl.com/citrtirc">#citrt</a>? We didn&#8217;t make it in in time for dinner with Dean Lisenby or Sheldon so will get to see them tomorrow along with Jason Powell!</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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					<description><![CDATA[Both MinistryTECH and the Roundtable were, again (for the Roundtable), well worth the trip in more ways than I can express, but since this is a blog I&#8217;m sure you expect me to try anyway (I won&#8217;t disappoint). There&#8217;s always something new and different going on (this time it was some video experimentation and the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both <a title="MinistryTECH Church IT Conference" href="http://www.ministrytech.org/">MinistryTECH</a> and the <a title="Church IT Roundtable" href="http://www.citrt.org/">Roundtable</a> were, again (for the Roundtable), well worth the trip in more ways than I can express, but since this is a blog I&#8217;m sure you expect me to try anyway (I won&#8217;t disappoint). There&#8217;s always something new and different going on (this time it was some video experimentation and the heavy use of Twitter throughout). This is only the second Church IT Roundtable I&#8217;ve been to (the first was last October), and this was only the fourth National Roundtable since Jason Powell kicked it off shortly before I discovered his blog and shortly thereafter started blogging (but missed the second Roundtable in Houston last Spring).</p>
<h2>The Roundtable, Now and Again</h2>
<p>Each Roundtable ends with a discussion regarding the future direction of the Roundtable. Do we want to continue as-is, or do we want to become more of an official group? Do we want to stay the same size, or try and grow? Do we have a problem at all, and if so, what is it? The general consensus I think, was that we will continue as-is until we discover a problem to solve. We&#8217;ll keep inviting people, but it doesn&#8217;t matter if they come or not. That&#8217;s their problem. I think almost everyone who has been to a Roundtable has had an amazing enough time that they are excited about it and want to share such an amazing experience with others in a similar position who haven&#8217;t heard of it, and that&#8217;s where the desire to grow comes from. At the same time, the group works well with approximately the number we have (25-75), so why change it?</p>
<p>I agree with both perspectives, how&#8217;s that for being on the fence? Until we have a problem, we keep it small but work to make it bigger. We have local Roundtables in our area if we can drum up enough interest among the locals Church IT folks. We work on centralizing and updating the main CITRT website more often to provide some cohesiveness and a single-source-of-information without becoming too structured. We keep hanging out in the <a title="CITRT on IRC (need IRC client installed)" href="irc://irc.freenode.net/#citrt">#citrt</a> chat room on IRC (connecting online with people we&#8217;ve met in person is a tremendous boon, at least to me, and the two complement each other very well), and we keep blogging. It&#8217;s worked pretty well so far. A couple of vendors suggested creating more structure, and I think they could end up being very helpful in this area when we get to the point that we want or need to do that! Until then, we&#8217;ll stay on what looks like auto-pilot (can you tell I&#8217;m writing this in an airport?) but with the usual careful planning and assistance that the &#8220;founding partners&#8221; have provided behind the scenes with everyone else helping out where willing and able. I think that was the consensus as I heard it, feel free to correct me or provide an alternate view.</p>
<p>One issue that was raised in the final discussion was, &#8220;Why keep having a discussion about the group at the end of each Roundtable, does that mean we need to change or people want change?&#8221; I think that group introspection and evaluation is a good idea to see what did and didn&#8217;t work each time, since each Roundtable is different. We are very &#8220;un-group&#8221; still, and rather than a core group getting together to review and plan after the event, I think it&#8217;s beneficial to have everyone contribute to the process as a part of the meeting. I would call the discussion useful and beneficial, which is why I feel posting the details for anyone to see here is just continuing the same transparency and discussion already started in person. Of course, this is all my understanding mixed with my opinion, so feel free to disagree (comments are welcome although if you care that much, it&#8217;s likely you have a blog of your own!).</p>
<p>All in all, I had at least as good a time at this Roundtable as the last, if not better. I love the people and the friendships and the discussions and the shared enjoyment of technology with fellow Christians. Sure, I can read <a title="Wired Magazine" href="http://www.wired.com/">Wired</a> or <a title="Network World Magazine" href="http://www.networkworld.com/">Network World</a> magazines and see a lot of cool gadgets, but there&#8217;s no shared worldview or mission to really connect with, it&#8217;s just technology (and often, in the case of Wired, a very atheistic worldview comes through very strongly). With the Roundtable, it&#8217;s not just a meeting and it&#8217;s not just about technology. It&#8217;s an excuse for friendships and relationships (shhh, don&#8217;t tell my boss&#8211;oh wait, developing relationships is higher on Lakeview&#8217;s radar than technology, and getting both at once is quite a nice combination :-)</p>
<h2>MinistryTECH</h2>
<p>So what about the new <a title="MinistryTECH Church IT Conference" href="http://www.ministrytech.org/">MinistryTECH</a> conference? Overall, I think it was a success. In addition to the CITRT group, many of whom were present, MinistryTECH managed to reach a wider audience due to their existing <a title="MinistryCOM Church Communications Conference" href="http://ministrycom.org/">MinistryCOM</a> foot-in-the-door history and an actual marketing budget (apparently there are some benefits to charging $325 instead of $15 to attend, and hosting a vendor exposition hall!). They also were able to attract some well-known people in the Church IT world (such as <a title="Terry Storch's blog" href="http://www.terrystorch.com/">Terry Storch</a> and <a title="Tony Morgan Live" href="http://tonymorgan.typepad.com/">Tony Morgan</a> and others) that provided some great information and ideas to re-energize us and provide food for introspection, in addition to the great church tours we were able to take (even though I missed about half while traveling). A side benefit to the conference and the many attendees was the opportunity to mention the Roundtable to people that hadn&#8217;t heard of it. We are at least getting seeds planted and the more we can get people involved in the national (and global) Church IT community rather than hanging out by themselves, I think there will be more of a reach for both MinistryTECH and the CITRT in the future.</p>
<h2>In Which The Babbling Stops</h2>
<p>That just about does it for my thoughts right now. I have a lot of pictures to sort through and upload (in the range of 600-700 raw), and I&#8217;ll post them or links to them when I do that. I left my laptop off and did more <a title="Twitter DSZP" href="http://twitter.com/dszp">Twittering</a> than blogging or note-taking this time, but <a title="Jason Lee's blog" href="http://jasonmlee.net/">Jason Lee</a> and several others have done an excellent job of posting outlines and summaries of many of the talks and topics, and in many cases speakers have posted their slides for download as well. In addition, a couple of talks were <a title="MinistryTECH uStream from Ian Beyer" href="http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ministrytech">streamed and recorded</a> using the <a title="uStream Service" href="http://www.ustream.tv/">uStream.tv</a> video service thanks to <a title="Ian Beyer: Adventures in Network Plumbing" href="http://netplumber.blogspot.com/">Ian Beyer</a>.</p>
<p>Also, this post was written primary on Sunday, April 6th (the day after the Roundtable) while I was in the Cincinnati airport on my way home, with links added later. So it&#8217;s a fresher perspective than I have now, not that I&#8217;ve had time to think about it since! Being gone for a while from work means a bit extra waiting when I return :-) Since it&#8217;s taken me a while to get this posted, Tony Dye (at least) has already managed to beat me to a lot of this. Check out his posts, and as usual they are very logical and well-considered (he also re-caps each session he attended and all of the Roundtable in posts just prior, check them out too!):</p>
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<li><a title="Tony Dye: Spring 2008 CITRT: What's Next?" href="http://tonydye.typepad.com/main/2008/04/spring-2008--13.html">Spring 2008 CITRT: What&#8217;s Next?</a></li>
<li><a title="Tony Dye: MinistryTECH, CITRT After-Thoughts" href="http://tonydye.typepad.com/main/2008/04/ministrytech-ci.html">MinistryTECH, CITRT After-Thoughts</a></li>
<li><a title="Tony Dye: Roundtable Reflections, part 1" href="http://tonydye.typepad.com/main/2008/04/roundtable-refl.html">Roundtable Reflections, part 1</a></li>
<li>And, for an funny hotel story: <a title="Tony Dye: My Interesting OKC Hotel Room" href="http://tonydye.typepad.com/main/2008/04/my-interesting.html">My Interesting OKC Hotel Room</a></li>
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<p>I know others have posted as well, I just haven&#8217;t had time to find them all yet!</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The second and last day of MinistryTECH is almost over. The tail-end of the Megachurch Tour was good on Wednesday and some of the Crown Hotel group had some good discussion both of the previous two nights in the Northwoods hotel room. Unfortunately, my throat has been pretty sore at the end of this cold [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second and last day of MinistryTECH is almost over. The tail-end of the Megachurch Tour was good on Wednesday and some of the Crown Hotel group had some good discussion both of the previous two nights in the Northwoods hotel room. Unfortunately, my throat has been pretty sore at the end of this cold that just won&#8217;t let go, so I&#8217;m not operating at peat performance. If only I could clean out my system with a quick A/V scan&#8230;fortunately, it gets better daily!</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve been twittering a lot but haven&#8217;t booted my laptop up much (phone is much easier to carry around). I have been making some good connections, learning some good things about the possibilities of <a title="SonicWall homepage" href="http://www.sonicwall.com/">SonicWALL</a> devices (both firewall and data backup), and trying not to hack up a lung. The conference has been great!</p>
<p>Ian Beyer has been (and is at this moment) streaming video from the <a title="uStream of MinistryTECH" href="http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ministrytech">sessions via uStream</a> with his &#8220;parrot cam&#8221; (web cam taped to his shoulder). Excellent!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have more to post later once I&#8217;ve processed it, beyond the very active <a title="Twitter: dszp" href="http://twitter.com/dszp">Twitter tweets</a> from a <em>lot </em>of people here! Meanwhile, focusing on people and less on blogging/computer stuff has been really good! (There. I said it. :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Szpunar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve intentionally stayed away from using Twitter for a while (not that I haven&#8217;t had an account!); it&#8217;s just one more thing to deal with and I already have enough profiles, blogs, and other random accounts. But it seems to be getting more popular among some Church IT bloggers, and I&#8217;m starting to miss things [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve intentionally stayed away from using <a title="Twitter.com" href="http://twitter.com/">Twitter</a> for a while (not that I haven&#8217;t had an account!); it&#8217;s just one more thing to deal with and I already have enough profiles, blogs, and other random accounts. But it seems to be getting more popular among some Church IT bloggers, and I&#8217;m starting to miss things by not following &#8216;tweets! So I set up a new Twitter account today (I&#8217;ll leave my old one private and locked), calledÂ <a title="Twitter: DSzp" href="http://twitter.com/dszp">dszp</a>. Why? In addition to the above, because it&#8217;s easy to update via Google Talk and especially SMS texting, it will make it easier to provide updates in between blog posts while I&#8217;m at MinistryTECH and the Church IT Roundtable this week, especially when I&#8217;m not at a computer (or when I don&#8217;t feel like taking the time to boot mine up).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve put my recent &#8216;tweets in the right sidebar of this blog for quick reference. My flight leaves Indianapolis at 8:15 tomorrow morning and I arrive (supposedly) at 11:10 am Oklahoma local time. Once I get my rental I&#8217;ll likely try to track down the megachurch tour in progress, hopefully for lunch and the tour&#8217;s second half, but we&#8217;ll see how things pan out. You&#8217;d think I&#8217;d have a better handle on this stuff, leaving in the morning and all&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#8217;m at the airport with plenty of time before my flight. Because it&#8217; delayed by almost two hours; the plane hasn&#8217;t arrived yet. I can&#8217;t find a power outlet; there&#8217;s free WiFi here (better than I can say for my hotel) but my laptop won&#8217;t last three hours. I hope everyone else from the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m at the airport with plenty of time before my flight. Because it&#8217; delayed by almost two hours; the plane hasn&#8217;t arrived yet. I can&#8217;t find a power outlet; there&#8217;s free WiFi here (better than I can say for my hotel) but my laptop won&#8217;t last three hours.</p>
<p>I hope everyone else from the Roundtable either had or has a safe trip home! A big Thank You from me goes out to <a href="http://appianway.blogspot.com/" title="The Appian Way homepage">Clif Guy</a> and his team for the amazing job they did with the Roundtable, and the vendors were also generous with the excellent meals they supplied. I was also given rides  throughout the week (to and from the airport, to and from my hotel, and to the restaurants) by Matt Bradshaw of <a href="http://www.cor.org/" title="United Methodist Church of the Resurrection homepage">COR</a>, <a href="http://www.deanlisenby.com/" title="Dean Lisenby's blog">Dean Lisenby</a> of <a href="http://www.acstechnologies.com/" title="ACS Technologies homepage">ACS Technologies</a>, <a href="http://ministry-it.blogspot.com/" title="Nick Nicholaou's Ministry IT blog">Nick Nicholaou</a> of <a href="http://www.mbsinc.com/" title="MBS, Inc. homepage">MBS Inc.</a> and <a href="http://www.ministry-tech.com/" title="Ministry Technology Institute homepage">Ministry Technology Institute</a>, and David Crist of <a href="http://www.fpcbellevue.org/" title="First Presbyterian Church of Bellevue homepage">First Presbyterian Church of Bellevue,</a> so a big thank you to all of them as well! I appreciate the rides but also the conversation.</p>
<p>There was myriad technical information to absorb at the Roundtable, which was worth about ten times the actual cost in value, but the biggest reason to go was to network and build relationships with others in similar situations. I was able to meet people that I had only known though blogs, and there were also many people who don&#8217;t blog that were great to hang out with. This applies to the peers and vendors both. When a vendor sends their IT person and not a salesman, they can make excellent contributions on the level we in the Church IT world are looking for without annoying us with sales pitches. Save those for our supervisors. And that&#8217;s what I experienced from everyone I talked to this time.</p>
<p>All this applies to the Granger Roundtable last week put on by Jason Powell, which I have not had time to blog about but was equally as informative and relational. (Hmmm&#8230;saying &#8220;relational&#8221; makes me think of databases. If you know me, you&#8217;re probably not surprised :-)</p>
<p>Well, that laptop battery I mentioned is almost dead, so I&#8217;ll cut this here. I suppose that&#8217;s good; they say less is more. Unless it&#8217;s a Church IT Roundtable, in which case, more is more :-)</p>
<p><em><strong>UPDATE (at 9:22 am Central):</strong></em> I found power! Sometimes, going to the restroom is useful. Well, it usually is, but sometimes what you find along the way is useful as well&#8230;but my flight is delayed <em>another</em> half an hour now, so 11:28 is the target time. Not that I believe them this time after it moved from 10:45 to 10:55 to 11:03&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Matt Bradshaw at COR was kind enough to set up feed aggregation to pull together the blog feeds of known bloggers at the Church IT Roundtable. You can view the feeds all together at http://www.bitshepherd.com/planet/citrt/ and get the feed at http://www.bitshepherd.com/planet/citrt/atom.xml (autodiscovery doesn&#8217;t work yet, so you&#8217;ll need to add that URL directly to your [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Bradshaw at <a href="http://www.cor.org/" title="United Methodist Church of the Resurrection homepage">COR</a> was kind enough to set up feed aggregation to pull together the blog feeds of known bloggers at the <a href="http://www.citrt.org/" title="CITRT: Church IT Roundable">Church IT Roundtable</a>. You can view the feeds all together at <a href="http://www.bitshepherd.com/planet/citrt/" title="Planet CITRT feeds">http://www.bitshepherd.com/planet/citrt/</a> and get the feed at <a href="http://www.bitshepherd.com/planet/citrt/atom.xml" title="Planet CITRT XML">http://www.bitshepherd.com/planet/citrt/atom.xml</a> (autodiscovery doesn&#8217;t work yet, so you&#8217;ll need to add that <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Uniform Resource Locator' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">URL</acronym></span> directly to your feedreader if desired). Thanks, Matt!</p>
<p>Tomorrow, I return home! Tonight, I sleep.</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve taken around 300 photos while at the Church IT Roundtable at COR, but I haven&#8217;t had time to sort them out and post a lot of the good ones. I did, however, upload fifteen of them (so far) to a new CITRT set on Flickr that I took of the tables eating dinner courtesy [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken around 300 photos while at the <a title="Church IT Roundtable homepage" href="http://www.citrt.org/">Church IT Roundtable</a> at COR, but I haven&#8217;t had time to sort them out and post a lot of the good ones. I did, however, upload fifteen of them (so far) to a new CITRT set on <a title="Flickr homepage" href="http://www.flickr.com/">Flickr</a> that I took of the tables eating dinner courtesy to Dean Lisenby at <a title="ACS Technologies homepage" href="http://www.acstechnologies.com/">ACS</a>. You can <a title="Church IT Roundtable Fall 2007 Flickr Photos" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/existdifferently/sets/72157602254996161/">view the photos here</a>. It&#8217;s a good group of people! I got most (not all) of the attendees that were at the restaurant but even more showed up today.</p>
<p><a title="Matt, Philip and Brian at dinner before the Roundtable" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/existdifferently/1478543583/"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" title="The guys from COR that I ate dinner with Tuesday night October 2nd\" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1092/1478543583_9f6603fda8.jpg?v=0" border="0" alt="The guys from COR that I ate dinner with Tuesday night October 2nd\" width="400" height="300" align="left" /></a></p>
<p>In this photo, the three guys around the table on the left (left-to-right) are Matt Bradshaw, a desktop support technician, and Brian Slezak, all from <a title="United Methodist Church of the Resurrection homepage" href="http://www.cor.org/">Church of the Resurrection</a>. These guys either develop for their website or have recently, and I got to chat with them at a techie level about website development (not design!). We talked about different backend CMS options (CMS in this case is Content Management Systems, not to be confused with CMS meaning Church Management System, which apparently has been around as that acronym for twenty years and isn&#8217;t officially changing to ChMS any time soon per some Roundtable discussion Wednesday afternoon!), and we also shared some stories about some vulnerabilities we&#8217;ve had exploited on our websites for various nefarious purposes in the past and how we discovered and dealt with them.</p>
<p>In our afternoon Roundtable session, we discussed spiritual issues surrounding Church IT departments, which I didn&#8217;t end up with many notes on. We moved on to Church Management Systems, which had some useful information but my few notes are not in an easily digestible format. In our room, three churches currently use <a title="Shelby homepage" href="http://www.shelbyinc.com/">Shelby</a>, two use <a title="ACS Technologies homepage" href="http://www.acstechnologies.com/">ACS Technologies</a>, and we had one user each of <a title="Fellowship Technologies homepage" href="http://www.fellowshiptech.com/">Fellowship Technologies</a> and Microsoft CRM (which has been heavily customized). This provided some fodder for both theoretical and practical discussion about each system, but I think we were all about ready to wrap up after a long day of discussion and thus this was probably a little less informative than it could have been, but there were a few new gems of knowledge I gleaned. This is one area where I think the vendors in the room should probably have been allowed to participate rather than just observe, because we had vendor reps from Shelby, ACS, and Microsoft CRM (or an integrator of this one) in the room and the systems are sufficiently complex that they may have been able to provide additional information. Oh well, they are great folks to talk to outside of the Roundtable format and I think everyone is making great connections and relationships with the vendors and the attendees.</p>
<p><a title="Flickr: Rev. Adam Hamilton speaks to the Church IT Roundtable attendees" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/existdifferently/1481294918/in/set-72157602254996161/"><img decoding="async" title="Rev. Adam Hamilton speaks to Church IT Roundtable attendees" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1221/1481294918_070d6b948e.jpg?v=0" border="0" alt="Rev. Adam Hamilton speaks to Church IT Roundtable attendees" width="424" height="318" align="right" /></a>We moved to the main meeting room after the afternoon Roundtable and got to <a title="Flickr: Rev. Adam Hamilton speaks to the Church IT Roundtable attendees" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/existdifferently/1481294918/in/set-72157602254996161/">hear for 30 minutes</a> from <a title="United Methodist Church of the Resurrection: Rev. Adam Hamilton" href="http://www.cor.org/Sr_Pastor_s_Page.84.0.html">Rev. Adam Hamilton</a>, COR&#8217;s Founding and Senior Pastor. It was very informative hearing from his point of view, and several people had some very well thought-out questions to ask him afterwards. Around his talk, we watched a leadership video and an awesome, hilarious movie about Facilities Managers (&#8220;FMers&#8221;) created by I believe the COR facilities manager. It was sooo stinking funny! About 90 laughs per minute! There was another similar video earlier today as well, just as funny. The best part is that everything in the videos about FMers applies just about equally to ITers, which I&#8217;m sure made it extra funny for all. We had a half-hour break after this and then it was time for a great dinner at 6:00 from a local BBQ joint catered to a room down the hall, sponsored but I don&#8217;t know which vendor paid this time.</p>
<p>7:00 brought a worship service and sermon from <a title="The Appian Way homepage" href="http://appianway.blogspot.com/">Clif&#8217;s</a> wife and the band from her church plant, which were excellent. At 8:00 they opened a room (until 11:00 pm at the latest) for hangout and open discussion, where I stuck around for 15-20 minutes and then caught a ride back to my hotel again from Dean Lisenby and Josh Wyse from ACS (thanks Dean!), where I am writing most of this post.</p>
<p><a title="Jason Powell and the Fake Roundtable Badge" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/existdifferently/1481290226/in/set-72157602254996161/"><img decoding="async" title="Jason Powell with " src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1062/1481290226_017271f337.jpg?v=0" border="0" alt="Jason Powell with " width="277" height="208" align="left" /></a>Going back to this morning, I can&#8217;t forget to mention that <a title="Jason Powell's blog" href="http://www.jasonpowell.net/">Jason Powell</a> lost his Roundtable name badge and had to <a title="Jason Powell and the Fake Roundtable Badge" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/existdifferently/1481290226/in/set-72157602254996161/">make a &#8220;fake&#8221; one for himself</a>. He was razzed first thing this morning, and he was kind (apparently I said &#8220;king&#8221; rather than &#8220;kind&#8221; when writing this post late last night, so let me clarify: JP is cool, but not king :-) enough to post for a photo just so I could blog about it!</p>
<p>In other news, back on the home front I ran into an issue back at Lakeview today: I let the <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Encryption method used to secure network traffic, often HTTP but many other protocols as well','caption', 'Secure Sockets Layer' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">SSL</acronym></span> certificate expire for our <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Microsoft Exchange\'s version of webmail','caption', 'Outlook Web Access' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">OWA</acronym></span> webmail (which also is used for <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Remote Procedure Call' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">RPC</acronym></span> over <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'HTTP protocol using SSL encryption','caption', 'HyperText Transfer Protocol Secure' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">HTTPS</acronym></span> in Outlook, and by our Treos with ActiveSync). So I spent part of the afternoon Roundtable remotely accessing the Lakeview network and working to resolvethat situation. Technically, the certificate didn&#8217;t expire, the renewed certificate was just never updated on the servers. This was for a variety of reasons, the main ones being that it fell off my priorities list with everything else going on, and also I didn&#8217;t have the username/password information handy for that account and didn&#8217;t find the time to track it all down with all the steps that will likely require. I have a temporary solution halfway in place now (everything but some Treos are working again) that I have to tweak tonight before I go to bed (also known as <em>right now</em>), and it should give me the time to deal with the original problem in the next few weeks. I won&#8217;t get into the details for both security reasons and because I&#8217;ve spent enough time recapping today already!</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m a part of Room B at the Church IT Roundtable, one of four individual rooms of discussion. So far, the first video sharing between the four rooms hasn&#8217;t worked yet, but we&#8217;ve had some good discussion within our room. The topics we&#8217;ve discussed so far are: Storage and backups Mozy and MozyPro for offsite [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a part of Room B at the <a title="The Appian Way: Fall 2007 Church IT Roundtable" href="http://appianway.blogspot.com/2007/10/who-is-coming-to-roundtable.html">Church IT Roundtable</a>, one of four individual rooms of discussion. So far, the first video sharing between the four rooms hasn&#8217;t worked yet, but we&#8217;ve had some good discussion within our room. The topics we&#8217;ve discussed so far are:</p>
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<li>Storage and backups
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<li><a title="Mozy homepage (250MB extra on free account through this link)" href="https://mozy.com/?ref=V3YW67">Mozy</a> and <a title="Mozy Pro homepage" href="http://www.mozypro.com/">MozyPro</a> for offsite backup of some critical data (Shelby, Exchange) and is doing Shelby offsite backups on encrypted hard drives as well</li>
<li>SANs</li>
<li>NAS</li>
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<li>Email spam filtering
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<li><a title="DefenderSoft Email Threat Center homepage" href="http://www.defendersoft.com/">DefenderSoft</a> is used by Lakeview Church, which is an MX Logic reseller</li>
<li>Symantec Barracuda in use by several churches</li>
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<li>Phone systems (VoIP vs. traditional) discussion I was not able to take notes on.</li>
<li>Digital signage for internal church display
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<li>Jason Wilson (Indian Creek) mentioned that they are using <a title="Axis TV homepage" href="http://www.axistv.com/">Axis TV</a> that lets them run an in-house TV network. The system is used to display announcements, splitting an LCD screen into multiple frames (a PowerPoint on one half and other feeds or announcements on the other half, like the auditorium feeds). Content can be assigned to individual areas so video can be targeted. It&#8217;s IP-based but feeds standard def RF to the TVs (HD capable but not doing it). Axis allows scheduling of upcoming events so announcements can be set up via it&#8217;s web-based administration area to display and turn off at particular times. Ballpark cost for the software is around $25k.</li>
<li>PowerPoint is being used by a couple of churches, including one church that pipes PowerPoint through <a title="EasyWorship homepage" href="http://infotech.davidszpunar.com/wp-admin/http/www.easyworship.com">EasyWorship</a>.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>WiFi
<ul>
<li>Lakeview is doing public and private WiFi on separate SSIDs and separate VLANs throughout their building. Nomadix is being used to limit guest access with a well-known password, bandwidth limits, and content filtering via <a title="OpenDNS homepage" href="http://www.opendns.com/">OpenDNS</a>.</li>
<li>Seacoast is also doing WiFi through a separate public network at several of their locations.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Network Monitoring
<ul>
<li>What&#8217;s up Gold is being used at COR</li>
<li>Nagios open source was mentioned by Matt Bradshaw from COR</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Websites and division of labor between IT and Communications
<ul>
<li>Mary Walton said it is difficult to get each pastor in different areas to create or update content for their website.</li>
<li>Steve Hewitt attending a church of 3,000 that is using a flash site that can&#8217;t be updated easily so they&#8217;ve had to create a separate site for their ministry area (as lay users).</li>
<li><a title="Asbury United Methodist Church" href="http://www.asburytulsa.org/">Asbury United Methodist</a> posts their sermons online</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Sermons online and podcasting
<ul>
<li>Most churches represented in this room that are doing online sermons are also posting the feed in iTunes.</li>
<li>Steve Hewitt said churches should make sure to post sermons with keywords and good descriptions in the titles, to make sure people around the world can find them rather than just using the date and church name for the system</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Email blasts
<ul>
<li>Room A asked about email blasting experience and options:
<ul>
<li>Steve Hewitt highly recommends Constant Contact for email blasts (50,000 addresses, 20 different groups) because they have relationships with <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Still the largest internet service provider in the world (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aol.com&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;)','caption', 'America Online' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">AOL</acronym></span> to get the emails through. Cost for his level of use is about $350 per month but it depends on the number of addresses.</li>
<li><a title="Asbury United Methodist Church" href="http://www.asburytulsa.org/">Asbury</a> uses ACS to blast out directly to 5,000 twice a week and hasn&#8217;t had any problems with blocking.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>We also dicsussed multi-site service streaming a bit but I was unable to capture notes on that.</li>
<li>Mac integration
<ul>
<li>Asbury just got two Macs in their Communications department and they have had a lot of trouble integrating them.</li>
<li>Indian Creek hasn&#8217;t had a push to use Macs but they have some high-powered PCs.</li>
<li>COR does not backup the default storage on their Macs but they give them a UNC path they can store documents to be backed up. But they can&#8217;t integrate with Active Directory for free.</li>
<li>Lakeview integrates Mac OS X 10.4 with Active Directory using the Directory Access utility in Utilities. It does authentication including to (non-DFS) network shares but does not apply any policies. ADmitMac software supposedly can do a lot more including DFS operations but is expensive and Lakeview has not used or tried it.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Patch management
<ul>
<li>Indian Creek is doing patch management through the Windows Software Update Server.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>User software testing
<ul>
<li><a title="TotalTesting homepage" href="http://www.totaltesting.com/">TotalTesting.com</a> is recommended by Rod Cadenhead to test user&#8217;s ability to use Office products</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Service Planning and Music software
<ul>
<li>Lakeview uses <a title="Planning Center Online homepage" href="http://www.planningcenteronline.com/">PlanningCenterOnline.com</a> to organize their weekend worship and music</li>
<li>A couple of churches use software called Music Manager</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Donations
<ul>
<li>Seacoast generally does not accept computer donations because they&#8217;re old and generally don&#8217;t work</li>
<li>Indian Creek takes donations and has a volunteer who eBays the items and the money goes back into the IT budget</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Lunch time!</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<title>GCC Church IT Roundtable is this Wednesday</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Szpunar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This Wednesday, I&#8217;m heading up to Granger, IN to the Granger Community Church Church IT Roundtable. It&#8217;s the week before the big one in Kansas City (registration closes today!) and should be a good, smaller group that I&#8217;m looking forward to hanging out with for the day. And, although I&#8217;m sure I will be sad [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Wednesday, I&#8217;m heading up to Granger, IN to the Granger Community Church <a href="http://jpowell.blogs.com/jason_powell_church_it/2007/06/registration_no.html" title="Jason Powell: Registration Now Open - GCC Church IT Roundtable Sept 26th"><em>Church IT Roundtable</em></a>. It&#8217;s the week before the <a href="http://appianway.blogspot.com/2007/08/register-for-fall-2007-roundtable-now.html" title="The Appian Way: Register for the Fall 2007 RoundTable now!">big one in Kansas City</a> (registration closes today!) and should be a good, smaller group that I&#8217;m looking forward to hanging out with for the day. And, although I&#8217;m sure I will be sad to go home that evening, I get to look forward to seeing Jason and probably several others at in Kansas City in October!</p>
<p>Jason Powell has asked that <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Large church in Granger, Indiana with Jason Powell as the IT Director','caption', 'Granger Community Church' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">GCC</acronym></span> Roundtable attendees bring a topics list to discuss, so I have to think of some stuff for that. It&#8217;s not coming up with topics that will be a problem, it&#8217;s finding the time to actually make a list! Between Roundtables, some website work (sorry, I know I promised a post about this, but I&#8217;m too much in the middle of it to write about it yet), moving (spent five hours doing almost-the-last painting today!), and schoolwork (which I need to get ahead on this week so I can have fun at the Roundtables), it&#8217;s been and continues to be crazy. At least I&#8217;m having fun with just about everything; I just wish I could add hours to the day. But who doesn&#8217;t want that? I guess I&#8217;ll settle for going to bed right now, rather than at 4:30 like last night :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<title>I Can Play The Merakis!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Szpunar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The install and test was a success! Four Meraki Mini access points are up and running at the campgrounds, providing internet access through the satellite connection (which was the weak link during our testing, being slow or down most of the time, but it was working better before we arrived so we have higher hopes). [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a title="My post: Off to do some Mesh Networking with Meraki" href="http://infotech.davidszpunar.com/2007/07/24/off-to-do-some-mesh-networking-with-meraki/">install and test</a> was a success! Four <a title="Meraki Mini" href="http://meraki.com/products/mini/">Meraki Mini</a> access points are up and running at the campgrounds, providing internet access through the satellite connection (which was the weak link during our testing, being slow or down most of the time, but it was working better before we arrived so we have higher hopes). We even made it back to Lakeview before 5 pm, which was our goal!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not even that much to tell. The setup was the easiest part: unpack, plug in to power. Place near window for best signal. Plug internet line into the one next to the satellite modem. And that part had been done for us! We primarily tested the existing network using <a title="My post: VisiWave Wireless Site Survey" href="http://infotech.davidszpunar.com/2007/03/10/visiwave-wireless-site-survey/">VisiWave</a> to document signal strength, and moved the fourth access point around to various locations to make sure when we order four more, they will cover what we want them to (they will). The VisiWave mapping was the most time-consuming part of the trip (besides waiting for the slow/disconnected internet), but I haven&#8217;t had time to pull useful reports out of that data yet.</p>
<p>The <a title="Meraki Dashboard" href="http://meraki.com/products/dashboard/">Meraki Dashboard</a> is the truly novel and useful tool. You can place your nodes on a map, view how they are interconnected, monitor bandwidth usage and speeds by node and by user, block or whitelist users, set up a splash page, security, and quite a few other nice tweaks that I wouldn&#8217;t have thought of but make perfect sense when you see them!</p>
<p>I took a couple of screenshots of the node map overview, using standard and satellite maps:</p>
<p><a title="Meraki at Campgrounds, Standard Map Overview" href="http://infotech.davidszpunar.com/2007/07/24/i-can-play-the-merakis/meraki-at-campgrounds-standard-map-overview/" rel="attachment wp-att-101"><img decoding="async" src="http://infotech.davidszpunar.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/merakilp_overview_map.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Meraki at Campgrounds, Standard Map Overview" /></a> <a title="Meraki at Campgrounds, Satellite Hybrid Overview" href="http://infotech.davidszpunar.com/2007/07/24/i-can-play-the-merakis/meraki-at-campgrounds-satellite-hybrid-overview/" rel="attachment wp-att-100"><img decoding="async" src="http://infotech.davidszpunar.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/merakilp_overview_hybrid.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Meraki at Campgrounds, Satellite Hybrid Overview" /></a></p>
<p>If you hold your mouse over a node (in the real Dashboard, not these pictures of course! But you knew that&#8230;), the route to the internet turns green (one of the gray lines between nodes in the standard map), and some external text shows some additional status information. The number on a node is the number of users in the last 24 hours. These pictures just scratch the surface of the control interface, which is well thought out and feature rich. But that&#8217;s all I have time for, so you&#8217;ll have to grab some of your own Minis and mess around!</p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230;sorry for the joke in the title. I do love my bad puns&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> On Feb. 21st, 2012, after a new comment and response below, I wrote a post that&#8217;s a bit of a followup to this one, over at my current (though still infrequently-updated) blog: <a href="http://www.existdifferently.com/2012/ubiquity-unifi-vs-open-mesh-wifi/">Ubiquity UniFi vs. Open Mesh</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<title>Granger today, Conference tomorrow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Szpunar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today (Tue) I drove up to Granger, IN with my family to hang out with Jason Powell, Ed Buford, and Kyle Sagarsee at Granger Community Church for the afternoon! We had a blast, I learned a ton of stuff and got to see their digs first hand. Jason and the gang are one of the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today (Tue) I drove up to Granger, IN with my family to hang out with <a href="http://jpowell.blogs.com/" title="Jason Powell's blog">Jason Powell</a>, <a href="http://edbuford.blogs.com/ed_buford_just_another_ge/" title="Ed Buford's blog">Ed Buford</a>, and <a href="http://welshmnky.blogspot.com/" title="Kyle Sagarsee's blog">Kyle Sagarsee</a> at <a href="http://www.gccwired.com/" title="Granger Community Church">Granger Community Church</a> for the afternoon!  We had a blast, I learned a ton of stuff and got to see their digs first hand.  Jason and the gang are one of the friendliest bunches of geeks you could want to meet, and they have some cool toys to play with.  They&#8217;re level of technical excellence is a step above where I want to be at Lakeview, even though they don&#8217;t have everything figured out either (who does?).</p>
<p>Tomorrow, a friend (and Lakeview volunteer) and I are going to the Network World LIVE Conference in Chicago, IL.  We&#8217;re both staying at a nearby hotel in Chicago tonight with our families.  This has been planned for a while, but the trip to Granger was an added bonus that struck me as a good on-the-way stop.  The conference will have to be pretty good to equal the benefit and experience of visiting <span class="ubernym uttInitialism" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Large church in Granger, Indiana with Jason Powell as the IT Director','caption', 'Granger Community Church' );"><acronym class="uttInitialism">GCC</acronym></span>; I&#8217;m not holding my breath.  It sounds very good, but visiting with other church IT folks seems to be extra special compared to &#8220;general&#8221; IT, not to knock them of course.  Geeks are geeks to some extent!</p>
<p>Gotta get to bed ASAP now so I can make it to the conference&#8230;it&#8217;s 7:30 am to after 6 pm, so it should be a long day!</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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